PGR: The Toxic Chemicals in Your Marijuana

When we first published this article (June 25th, 2018), ‘Plant Growth Regulators’ were the subject of many a forum thread… we were doing what we could to compile all the loose bits of information found across the internet into one accessible space.By and large, people didn’t really know about PGR. Information was disparate.
Since then, this article (and topic) has gained a lot of attention from the cannabis community. FAB has been waging a public awareness campaign against Plant Growth Regulators in the form of #FCKPGR stickers, merchandise and other propaganda. Recently, we even launched a new design!
fck pgr stickers
#FCKPGR stickers, for the real ones.
We have witnessed a rapid sea-change occur over the past three years – it’s been a real pleasure, being present for this massive shift in consciousness. We’re grateful to see new understandings associated with harm-reduction emerge before our eyes. People are learning to recognise the difference between good quality bud, and awful PGR crap.
If you’re still unsure exactly what PGR is, how it works, or why it’s so bad, read on…

Greetings, FABulous people! Let’s talk about PGR.

fck pgr

Has it ever occurred to you that something might be a little “off” with the weed you’re smoking? Does your cannabis look kind of sad? Does it smell a bit like a laundry cabinet – or does it not smell like anything at all?

Your weird-looking bud might be on toxic plant steroids. If your weed gives you headaches and gets you ‘fried’ in a really unenjoyable way, it’s important to consider this possibility. Cannabis grown using certain plant steroids are carcinogenic to the human body when combusted. The hormonal changes produce a specimen with compressed cell walls, resulting in visibly dense, clumpy, ugly flowers. Definitely not dank.

Perfect example of PGR weed from u/josh2k44 on /r/Ausents

Don’t believe me, on this? It’s more common than you may think.

Cannabis grown with carcinogenic Plant Growth Regulators / Plant Growth Retardants (PGRs) have flooded the Australian black market in recent years. Hydroponic PGR growing operations are commonplace due their high profitability and low cost of operation for criminal syndicates. Colloquially, PGR goes by many names – scag, dirt, ‘Brisbane/Melbourne Red’ and ‘Canberra/Adelaide’ Gold, to mention just a few.

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The current climate of prohibition has contributed to the rapid proliferation of PGR across Australian towns, suburbs and cities. As it stands, there is way too much power in the hands of those “supplying”, leaving consumers without meaningful choices. The situation across Australia has become dire, with the nation’s streets having become completely saturated with PGR buds for years now.

The saddest part? Most people seem unaware of the phenomenon. While some seasoned veterans have learned how to identify crappy buds in an instant… there are many young Australians who are slowly losing touch with what an authentic cannabis experience ought to look and feel like.

How do we know? Well, we used to be those kids, until we learned about the dangers of PGR through online forums. Since then, we’ve educated ourselves, done the research, and stayed clear from toxic buds. We’re definitely better off for it – and you can be, too.

What Are PGRs?

Are your buds rock hard? Perhaps they are covered in ugly, brown hairs? Maybe the buds themselves don’t have much of a scent to them, or smell like they haven’t been cured and dried out very well? If this sounds familiar to you, it’s likely that you’ve been smoking weed that has been treated with toxic Plant Growth Regulators.

PGRs are typically used to fatten buds up, increasing their weight; benefiting the ‘bottom lines’ of both producers and vendors – effectively increasing profits down the chain. This would be fine – if smoking PGR didn’t suck the cannabinoids and terpenes (i.e. the fun) out of cannabis, and have deeply adverse consequences to one’s health over the long term…

CYCO A+B – a toxic Plant Growth Regulator (PGR).

So, is PGR weed bad? The answer is a resounding YES – well, mostly. It depends what you mean. There are Organic Plant Growth Regulators which do not chemically induce cell reproduction in the same way.

Natural Plant Growth Regulators provide plants with an additional supply of auxins and cytokinins. As such, they aren’t toxic or detrimental to human wellbeing, on the whole. Examples of non-toxic PGRs include seaweed, kelp extract, bat guano extract, alfalfa extract, and the product ‘cannaboost’ by APTUS Plant Tech.

The Most Commonly Toxic ‘Plant Growth Regulators’

Paclobutrazol (PBZ), Daminozide (a.k.a. Alar), and Chlormequat Chloride are all well-known synthetic Plant Growth Regulators / Plant Growth Retardants; each has been used in Australian cannabis grows for decades. That’s right – unsafe weed has been circulating across Australia for ages.

PGRs get a very negative wrap in Australia – and for good reason. Paclobutrazol and Cyco PGR (A+B) can completely ruin a cannabis plant; as such, it isn’t uncommon to hear the advice that PGRs are worth avoiding altogether. In honesty, it’s pretty solid advice.

Other, slightly less infamous Plant Growth Regulators (which you should equally seek to stay clear of in your grow, and in life) include:
  • Bushload by General Hydroponics
  • Gravity by Emerald Triangle
  • Flower Dragon by Grow Envy
  • Phosphoload by Dutch Master
  • Superbud by Dutch Master
  • Rock Juice
  • Boonta Bud
  • Rox
  • Mega Bud
  • Dr Nodes
  • Yield Masta/Sudden Impact

In this article, we’re going to focus mostly on Paclobutrazol; the most common PGR used in Australia.

PBZ

PBZ is a plant growth retardant. It also works as a gibberellic acid antagonist.

In effect, PBZ binds to enzymes that are crucial to the cannabis growing process. Paclobutrazol inhibits the terpene synthase enzyme – causing a bottleneck in both the terpene synthesis pathway and the THC synthase pathway.

Paclobutrazol (PBZ).

This is why Paclobutrazol significantly reduces a hemp plant’s capacity to produce THC; the primary psychoactive compound in cannabis which helps you get high.

PBZ also lowers a cannabis plant’s ability to produce terpenes; the compounds which produce a wide diversity of dank smells.

Weed grown with PBZ is not only less visually appetising than usual; it’s also less psychoactive, and lacks the potent scents of buds grown without toxic PGRs.

Ultimately, Paclobutrazol causes the plant cells to endlessly divide, rather than elongate. As a result, the cells are packed closer together, with the flowers accommodating less space between calyx’s/pistols. Buds treated with PBZ are often mutant, rock hard messes, covered in thick, entangled red hairs, without any crystallised trichomes to be seen.

With that said, it’s important to note that density alone is not necessarily an assurance of PGR. Some strains can be naturally quite dense, contain an abundance of red hairs, and still be AOK – with high concentrations of terpenes and psychoactive cannabinoids.

terpenes
Cannabis terpenes under a microscope.

Combustion of Paclobutrazol (as when smoked) causes the compound to break down into nitrosamines – the most carcinogenic component in cigarettes. Nitrosamines have been found to make liver cells swell up. Smoking PGR can cause direct damage to your liver.[1][2]

If this all wasn’t bad enough… Paclobutrazol makes it much harder for any ‘young buck’ to impregnate women, as it wreaks havoc on male fertility and the human sperm count.[3] For those of you that want kids; you’ll want to stop smoking this crap immediately. On the other hand, if you don’t really mind poisoning your body in several different ways… by all means, continue.

A Pervasive Problem

PGR from u/LonzoBallZ on /r/AusEnts

The ubiquity of PGR weed is pretty terrifying. If you’re sitting there, wondering if the kind-of underwhelming pot you’ve been smoking on is PGR (or not), the answer is most likely yes. If you’re smoking hydroponic in any major Australian city, there’s a solid chance you’ve been consuming cannabis grown with PGR – unknowingly. Finding a source that isn’t peddling cannabis grown with Plant Growth Regulators can actually be quite challenging.

Gigantic commercial growers and illegal gangs use PGRs in their buds thanks to their overall effectiveness at boosting yields – and profits. Aussie consumers can only combat this if they stop buying synthetically-treated cannabis products.

Many smokers who are well aware of this problem still resign themselves to purchasing from a dealer who distributes PGR buds – either because they can’t find anyone or anything else in their area – or because they just don’t want to pay a higher premium for good quality buds.

If you can’t grow your own weed, we recommend that you do all you can to connect yourself to the hobbyists and small-time growers out there who produce clean cannabis. Australians should realise that for as long as they tolerate and accept PGRs themselves, there will be no financial incentive for producers and sellers to consider the wellbeing of their buyers.

Identifying PGR Buds

When trying to identify PGR, we typically look for rock hard buds with unusually thick stems, dull colours, and dry leaves. ‘PGR Buds’ will possess a visible lack of trichomes – the crystallised ‘pollen’ of cannabis. They will also be covered in reddish-brown hairs. PGRs stimulates growth of the calyxes and accelerates the maturation of the pistils, without giving them time to swell up and produce trichomes.

Often, PGR weed feels “spongey”. This is generally due to poor drying and curing – if the buds are too densely packed together, the drying process will be unsuccessful.

Another telltale sign of crappy PGR weed is a distinct lack of smell. If your ganja ain’t DANK… it’s a sign that something is wrong!

Spot the PGR!

Here are a few pointers – hopefully they will help you identify weed grown with PGRs:
Fig 1: Your stock-standard shitty PGR weed.

Fig. 1 is a quite standard story when it comes to Australian PGR weed. There is a dark dullness to the buds; the hairs are brown and dense. There are basically no visible trichomes. It honestly just looks so unappealing. Terrible smoke.

Below, Fig. 2: another example of cannabis grown with Plant Growth Regulators, sitting above some cannabis which has not been treated with PGR.

Quite easy to tell, don’t you think?

Fig. 2: PGR above, non-toxic weed below.

On the other hand… look at Figure 3. Assuming all you knew about PGR was what we’ve told you thus far, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to suppose that this bud has a few PGR-like characteristics – there are a lot of orange hairs, for instance.

In this case, however, it’s relatively easy to discern between this specimen and PGR weed – if you know what you’re looking for.

First of all, the colours in this cannabis are anything but dull and muted. Further, when you look closely, there are trichomes visible all over the weed – and its leaves. Additionally, the buds are not all that dense. What we have here is an example of some good bud.

If you come across something like this, chances are… it’s high quality weed, and a great smoke.

Fig. 3: Good smoke.

I want to apologise for the next picture (Fig. 4). It is just utterly revolting – hell, it makes me wanna vomit. It reminds me of the countless negative experiences that I’ve had with PGR buds.

The smell of ammonia instantly comes to mind, just looking at it. Covered in ugly brown hairs, and dominated by thick stems, anything that looks like this is sure to be PGR.

To top it all off, the white, yellow and black powder growing on the buds in this photo isn’t some kind of crazy trichome: it’s literally mould.

Fig. 4: The ugliest bud we’ve ever seen.

If you ever come across ANYTHING that looks like this image, do the entire universe a favour and just RUN. Your body – particularly your liver – will thank you in return. You will be blessed with years of good health that you would not have otherwise possessed. Your grandchildren will thank you. If we don’t want this garbage circulating, we need to start turning it down entirely.

Fig. 5: This stuff isn’t PGR…

After that completely pitiful excuse of a bud, let’s try to finish this section off on a positive note. Here we have another specimen (to the right) – with thick stems, and a heavy concentration of brown hairs.

The weed is quite dense… but you can tell that this is some good stuff. Those trichomes are quite obviously visible, and the hairs haven’t mutated into clumps of plant matter. In fact, this is a beautiful example of good weed right here.

Still having trouble identifying whether your weed has been grown with PGR? Contact us!

The Dangers of PGR Buds

Here’s the rub: Plant Growth Regulators are harmful – although, thanks to a lack of research, we don’t know exactly how. They’re also everywhere, thanks to the complete lack of regulation over black markets in the era of prohibition.

There is a growing awareness of the myriad negative health impacts on the human body, especially over the long term – yet, no clinical studies have been done on cannabis grown with PGR.

We still don’t know exactly what consuming PGR weed (via combustion) does to people. This is why everyone should avoid their consumption of this stuff, as much as they can. People in the Australian black market need to know this information; not only for the sake of their own health, but for the wellbeing of others, their family and friends.

PGR weed is gradually becoming a greater health risk to regular citizens, as the number of frequent cannabis users increases year after year. According to the 2016 National Drug Strategy Household Survey (NDSHS), 34.8% of all Australians have tried cannabis, with 10.4% having consumed the drug in the past year. Our prohibitive laws have struggled to keep up with the pace of the black market; which has proven it will stand to turn a profit, irregardless of criminal code and the legal standing of the substance.

Share this article with everyone you know who smokes cannabis – it’s very important to spread the word. Furthermore, if this issue speaks to you, please be sure to write to your local members of parliament. You can help inform our elected representatives of the true public health dangers associated with cannabis prohibition.

We need to make the case, loud and clear, that an unregulated black market (full of PGR buds) will continue to endanger the health and wellbeing of regular Australians into the future. [4]

Stop PGR! Bud from u/imgonegg on /r/AusEnts

Please: say ‘NO’ to PGR weed. This stuff gives weed a bad name. If somebody sells you some shitty looking cannabis, decline it. It’s better go without that poison in your body, than to subject yourself to a crappy, scattered and paranoid high – complete with a splitting headache.

Got any questions or comments about PGR buds? Be sure to let us know in the comments section below!

Works Cited

[1] Commonwealth of Massachusetts (MDAR): Paclobutrazol, January 2012 –
http://www.mass.gov/eea/docs/agr/pesticides/rightofway/docs/paclobutrazol-review-jan-2012.pdf

[2] California Environmental Protection Agency: PACLOBUTRAZOL, January 1993 –
https://archive.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/registration_review/web/pdf/paclobutrazol_summary.pdf

[3] PubMed: Exposure to Paclobutrazol disrupts Spermatogenesis in male Sebastiscus marmoratus, October 2015 –
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22789407

[4] AIHW: Illicit use of drugs, January 2018 –
https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports-statistics/behaviours-risk-factors/illicit-use-of-drugs/overview

Finally, a big thank you to the /r/ausents community for the photos of PGR weed – and /u/heavydayzecollective for his write up on PGR.
Joe Lagrasso
Author: Joe Lagrasso

Joe is a dreamer, entrepreneur and an all-around good guy. He wants to connect the Australian Cannabis community from businesses to consumers.

Joe Lagrasso
Joe Lagrassohttps://friendlyaussiebuds.com
Joe is a dreamer, entrepreneur and an all-around good guy. He wants to connect the Australian Cannabis community from businesses to consumers.

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RJ Thomson
RJ Thomson
5 years ago

Thanks for the info….A big help….. Forewarned is forearmed

Aaron
5 years ago
Reply to  RJ Thomson

It’s always preferred to only work with the best growers in your area. People adding unnecessary things to your marijuana is something you want to avoid as much as you can.

Joe LaGrasso
5 years ago
Reply to  Aaron

It’s hard in Australia, it’s a very closed off community because it is still so very illegal here.

Joshua
Joshua
5 years ago

Hey Mitchio,
I often struggle getting good quality buds which has set me on a path of looking to cultivate my own good quality fluffy trichome frosted buds.

MJ
Admin
MJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Joshua

Nice one, Joshua! We definitely reckon that growing your own is the best way to go.

Tinker
Tinker
5 years ago

I’ve been saying for months there’s something not right with the buds we get….. I always referred to it as being chewy…. Doesn’t fluff when you cut it sometimes has smell but rarely… This arrival has confirmed my fears…. We can’t get onto anything else… Got my plants in but months before they will help… What’s a person to do… It sux

Joe LaGrasso
5 years ago
Reply to  Tinker

I always called them “spongey”. And yeah it’s awful. Not much else you can do other than try and ask around unfortunately.

Sideshow
Sideshow
5 years ago

great article, well researched and written well

Joe LaGrasso
5 years ago
Reply to  Sideshow

Appreciate the feedback!

martin
5 years ago

excellent

Craig
Craig
5 years ago

The only way to prevent the big commercial growers from using PGRs that are very effective at boosting their yields and profits is to simply stop buying their treated product. If smokers continue buying it either because they can’t find anything else and buy it anyway knowing it’s garbage, or as in many cases smokers just don’t want to pay a little more for the smaller players product that has been grown with care and love not mass produced with PGRs then get used to PGR soaked weed and stop complaining about it. The smaller growers out there choosing not… Read more »

Joe LaGrasso
5 years ago
Reply to  Craig

You are 100% correct.

In Brisbane we’ve seen an increase in better supply in the past year or so. Why? Because people finally started saying NO to PGR.

Sai Ayyagari
Sai Ayyagari
2 years ago
Reply to  Craig

spot on craig

Choof master
Choof master
5 years ago

U should compare trichomes from our and PGR free bud under a microscope. Pgr trichs are pure white and withered.

Check it out.

Joe LaGrasso
5 years ago
Reply to  Choof master

That’s a great idea! Do you have a microscope to do this? We’re lacking one here. Would love to put it up though

Jonah
Jonah
5 years ago

Hey just abit of confusion, I have come across a lot of bud in the second last photo, covered in orange hairs but they still have a pretty strong smell to them. Does this mean they have pgr or just the type of strand?

Joe LaGrasso
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonah

Orange hairs is quite normal, it’s more when it’s just covered in more brown hairs than anything.
There are strains that produce more orange hairs than others. But if it’s brown and not very pretty, it’s probably pgr.
A strong smell probably means it’s good bud.

How dense is it? Is the bud spongey? Then it’s pgr.

Eli
Eli
5 years ago
Reply to  Joe LaGrasso

hey joe any info on this better supply in Brisbane??? Where bouts?? all I get is pgr. Got something that was just 100% covered in orange hairs the other day

Ad
Ad
4 years ago
Reply to  Jonah

This is probably laced with detergent. This will give a strong smell and a crystal look. Loads of Aussie weed is post treated with chemicals.

Zara Wallace
Zara Wallace
5 years ago

That’s some great info & the pictures sent in for identification is a really wonderful idea

Tommy
Tommy
5 years ago

Asian Caktus!!!!! ? That’s crazy that ppl even say Yes to buying it! That’s a problem in itself!
Second pic from the bottom is what I’m referring to that is a prime example, of what is everywhere!! East to West! unless ya know the right cunt. Its a fucking mess our weed scene here in Aus!! Legalise it and it will be game over for the PGR bud!!??

#bundybuds420 insta!! feel free to use my personal pics of proper good bud for reference!! Don’t ask me for shit though they just for reference!!??

Cobe Reid
Cobe Reid
5 years ago

Yeah that would help I’m from Detroit, MI, USA and we smoke a lot here . If I could tell whether or not it’s PGR would be very helpful.

Sean Pablo
Sean Pablo
5 years ago

thank you for the help!

clayton
clayton
5 years ago

My only hook up has been pushing this for ten years thought shit clones or poor strain never knew was this bad? Any way to decontaminate it gonna have to quit otherwise w.a only has these nugs fuck prohibition

clayton
clayton
5 years ago
Reply to  Joe Lagrasso

Working on new plug lol leg work n waiting but hope be worth it cheers ☺

Tom W
Tom W
4 years ago

People are paying $20 a G for 0% THC weed. Literal shisha smoke, without legalization or decriminalization hard earned Australian dollars will continue to end up in the pockets of Vietnamese gangs with the pure intention of ripping off Australian cannabis consumers. The war on drugs is increasing the demand, actually favouring these gangs. Who use their PGR profits to build clandestine drug labs and fund more importation of hard drugs. This war (on cannabis) has failed miserably and is the current only reason these gangs thrive. (Because there is no available alternative) Our Nanny state truly believes we are… Read more »

Brad Griffin
4 years ago

Love your work, Mitch. I only just found your site/blog. I used to write prolifically (Itsmedicinejim on Blogspot) but had some upheavals in life that stopped me. I’ve been hearing people refer to mass-produced bud as PGR but had no idea what the term meant. Now I know. Thankyou.

james
james
4 years ago

Came here looking for this exact info, got some with absolutely no smell, hard as a rock, weird taste and cant see trichomes under my loupe, this stuff is everywhere here in Aus anand it sucks

JJ Millzie
JJ Millzie
4 years ago

Explains the nasty headaches and lack of effect I have been getting (or not). Haven’t had anything for 6 weeks now and I probably won’t be now after reading this. 🙁

Tricia
Tricia
4 years ago

I knew it. I haven’t had decent pot since I stopped going to Sydney from Brisbane, 5 years ago. I’m 58 and lived in Sydney up until my 40. I thought they over used fertiliser. Also I want to mention the mucus that builds up in lungs when smoking the shit, tastes very salty, which I thought was fertiliser. And puts fluid on lungs.

GiggleBushFan
GiggleBushFan
3 years ago
Reply to  Tricia

You have just mentioned every symptom I have! The salty taste, coughing like a fiend ALL THE TIME and have only been a daily smoker again for 2yrs. I’m 45. I used a pgr once, had mold issues, not much smell etc. I no longer use anything like that, just nutrients and organic guano booster. Hoping to see a decline in the coughing.

Morgan McLachlan
Morgan McLachlan
4 years ago

Nice artical my friend , I really enjoyed the read. Maybe the follow up can be about the sugar water that the Asian growers are using also to densen up the bud. An exposee on badly grown hydroponics!!! Im from the UK and live on the GC and have nrver been exposed to a level of such poor quality cannabis. I have seen several large scale hydroponic set ups over here now and have been shocked to see how they were being run. In my opinion its a complete waste of time these grows are a waste of money/effort and… Read more »

Nic
Nic
4 years ago

Thank you for posting this. Sadly it needs to be spread far and wide – every smoker of buds should know this information. I was smoking PGR weed regularly for quite a while, got sick of it and didn’t know why. It all makes sense now. PLEASE DON’T BUY IT.

AP
AP
4 years ago

I was wondering if natural Plant growth regulators such as IAA are just as harmful as there synthetic counterparts?

MJ
Admin
MJ
4 years ago
Reply to  AP

Hey AP – there are important differences between synthetics and natural PGRs. IAA is generally considered much safer than PBZ, for instance.

Samuel Pulley
Samuel Pulley
4 years ago

Good info right there…

Samuel Pulley
Samuel Pulley
4 years ago

The more people who grow it for own usage and gifts,the more balanced the pot universe will be…

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Samuel Pulley

Yep

Festus
Festus
1 year ago
Reply to  Samuel Pulley

Thats kinda deep

Dusty
Dusty
4 years ago

Guys, to all of you having problems with PGR… register for “Empire Market” -> Spin up a virtual machine (Linux), install TOR browser on it, lookup “dark.fail” with it to get the link to the market, change bitcoin and order.

Fiona Firefly
Fiona Firefly
4 years ago

I came across this yesterday. It looked average (I’ve seen worse), hard to chop (needed to use a mullamatic, prefer scissors), tasted like absolute shite, and unforgivably NO STONE scattered or otherwise. Found myself yelling at the monitor “noooooooooo leave weed alone” lol

Aurora
Aurora
4 years ago

Is it safe to vape PGR weed? My partner uses it and we don’t know anyone else to buy it from…

MJ
Admin
MJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Aurora

No. Vaporising it is probably only marginally better for you in the long run if you’re still smoking toxic weed. Ask around – anything is better than settling for a harmful, low quality product.

Darren Denning
Darren Denning
3 years ago
Reply to  Aurora

I wouldn’t recommend it

Luke
Luke
4 years ago

The shits called own “Down Town Brown” where I’m from! It’s a disrespectful smoke that’s what it fucking is!

Holly
Holly
4 years ago

Your article has confirmed my suspicions regard one of my occasional sources. It actually looks ok until you try vapourise it and it’s gives up very little quality vapour at all and I find myself just smoking blunt after blunt instead. I’ve just started doing my own thing and I’m pleased to have found your site. Thanks for the eye opening article.

Culper712
Culper712
4 years ago

Love the article, I’ve been fortunate not to come across PGR grown hemp in my local areas (smoking for 11 years now). I’m glad to be able to identify good from bad when it comes to choosing what I’m buying and from who going forward.

imgonegg
4 years ago

came on here to check if what i’ve been getting is pgr until I scrolled down to the bottom and saw a picture of bud that I recognised. Lmao cant believe I found out about my bud being pgr by literally seeing a photo of my own bud as how not to guide. Guess I need to find a new dealer lol.

MJ
Admin
MJ
4 years ago
Reply to  imgonegg

LOL – thanks for putting your bud online. Best of luck finding a new source!
Make sure to look out for those nasty red hairs, ugly, sparse leaves, and a visible lack of trichomes.

J. Kate
J. Kate
4 years ago

I think what is missing from this article is the distinction that these chemicals fall under the sub-category of Plant Growth Retardents found within plant growth regulator umbrella. There are a bunch of naturally sourced Plant growth regulators used in horticulture, One main source is in fact seaweed which contains varying levels of auxins and cytokinins. A common synthetic Plant growth regulator used are auxins found in rooting powders and gels. Now I don’t believe plant growth retardants are good to use on Cannabis I just think this distinction should be made. As this article is meant to be a… Read more »

MJ
Admin
MJ
4 years ago
Reply to  J. Kate

Thanks for this, we agree and have made slight edits.

hemp buds
4 years ago

Thanks fr sharing information. keep sharing

Dan
Dan
4 years ago

Wish we could do something about this, I am disgusted with how much money I’ve wasted on this shit. Had no idea what real bud looked like until America starting legalising it

Duncan
Duncan
3 years ago

I smoked weed 3 times before hand felt so good really enjoyed it. Then one time I thought ok gonna shout the boys, so I bought it. I had one cone not even midly big and it instantly hit me, it tasted horrible, my heart rate dramatically increased, I started having uncontrollable spams felt more like a seizure, I got in the pool with my mate to try and lower my heart rate and ride it all out. Sexiured increased and heart Maintained fast rate and felt like it was gong to burst out my chest. I then closed my… Read more »

Yoyoyo
Yoyoyo
3 years ago

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this article. Really informative and now I’m more educated on the topic.

mitt
mitt
3 years ago

fck these c*nts, I’ve quit smoking because of these fckwits, last time I bought, it wouldn’t burn, I licked a bud out of curiosity, tasted like fcking salt and for the 1st time in my 46 years on the planet, I seriously contemplated dobbing in a dealer. FUCK THEM.

Maria Pusateri
Maria Pusateri
3 years ago

Do dispensaries regularly sell PGR weed?

Evan420
Evan420
3 years ago

Are PGR’s the cause of cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome? I smoke weed every day and I end up getting sick every 2 or 3 months (sometimes more frequently) for a few days. Almost every doctor ive seen says its caused from smoking too much weed. But i feel like if that was the cause I would be sick literally all the time cuz I never really quit smokin. I pretty much smoke the same amount every day. 3-5 bowls lol. Also smoking weed gets rid of my nausea a lot of the time. So it just doesn’t make sense to me.… Read more »

Jase
Jase
3 years ago

It’s called Bikie weed in Qld, particularly in Brisbane.They don’t produce it however….I obviously can’t reveal sources but SWIM says that it is grown commercially in suburban houses by Vietnamese crime groups throughout Melbourne (mainly)and is sold cheaply in bulk to certain OMG’s.

KB
KB
3 years ago

Hey mate how can I get in touch with hobbyists in my area? Is there a forum or website I can visit?

cbd hemp flower sale
3 years ago

Thanks for sharing useful information. keep sharing

Peter
Peter
3 years ago

Making yourself make your own chemicals that’s that way Aussie way

Capt Tripps
Capt Tripps
3 years ago

I’m in America and in the illegal states you can still find PGR bud for CHEAP PRICES And it always looks the same. And smells the same for the most part but u want to pay literally 20usd more per bag you’ll get non PGR most of THE PGR comes from the Mexican Cartels in the US

Brian
Brian
3 years ago

In many instances in Aus, PGR weed is all that’s available…if someone has a good connect, usually means there no selling PGR weed

Conan
Conan
3 years ago

For some reason my bud is sputtering when lit…still gets me stoned and smells fruity. Though hard to see trychromes. …please help! !!!

MJ
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MJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Conan

It doesn’t have seeds in it, or anything?

It may have been sprayed with god knows what… or it could be nasty, clumpy, dry and dense… in which case, it’s likely PGR. Which doesn’t mean that someone hasn’t sprayed it with a lemon air freshener. It’s unfortunately a common practice with shady dealers.

If it goes down harsh, and if you have to smoke a lot to get high, there’s another sign. Put the bud under light and see if there’s any visible crystallisation.

Hope that helps!

Michelle Gleeson
Michelle Gleeson
3 years ago

I’m old school from Australia was wondering what happened to sticky,icky pot you just will not find it in Australia just dry brittle shit ,I knew it had something to do with hydro but didn’t know what ,thankyou soooo much after reading your article I now know ,I need to walk away from something I’ve loved for a long time but I’ve known for a while it wasn’t Kosher 🙏😁🇭🇲

Marguerite
Marguerite
3 years ago

My medical cannabis is obviously got PGRs. The buds dont smell and have very little taste. It gives me headaches and stomach aches. I have been smoking organic cannabis ….its like the difference between organic and hydroponic strawberries. Make sure the clinics know s0 that in time we can sue because their buds are cancer waiting to happen.

Festus
Festus
1 year ago
Reply to  Marguerite

Here in NZ we just getting medpot last couple of months, and ANTG has a lion’s share of the new pharmacy market.
I bought the Medleaf Shishkaberry because it was way cheaper but it screwed up my liver real quick.
Does ANTG use PGR?
Thanks

Mauricio Henriquez
3 years ago

Great article Mitch!

SmokeyJones
SmokeyJones
3 years ago

PGR bud is not good but you folks have a lot of good info and some bad info in your article here. For one you still call cannabis a drug. Its an HERB period. I have seen PGR bud that has an amazing smell as well and to be honest most folks couldn’t tell the difference between the two. I wont smoke the stuff but weed with no smell is usually dried and cured way too fast and the sponge effect is present in the bud as its still moist in the center. I agree PGRs are bad but you… Read more »

Last edited 3 years ago by SmokeyJones
SAD
SAD
2 years ago
Reply to  SmokeyJones

The problem is you don’t fucking smoke apples. It’s the combustion thats the problem. 😠

FCK PGR
FCK PGR
1 year ago
Reply to  SmokeyJones

Dumb. See, this is the type of info that gets people in trouble or harmed. I call BS on just about everything you wrote. Epa has band most pgr’s, so that just made you a liar.

Karl
2 years ago

I have consumed Paclobutrazol and Daminozide Chlormequat Chloride all at once what is the consequence it was all on the one fruit I feel ill and cannot think

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